Thank you so much for your advice. I currently use Windows Media Maker, and I do enjoy it, but I think I've done about all I can with it. I just made a case CSI video with a ton of clips and a very action paced song, and it kept freezing up and locking up, wouldn't play, music would keep going when the video would freeze, I ended up having to make four different and piecing them together to pull the whole thing together. My big thing is I want to be about to layer clips on top of clips, which I cannot do with WMM, but you menioned a place with extra effects and transitions?? I will have to find that, maybe that's all I need. And thanks, I will definitley look into that community, always looking to improve my moving making..... Thank you