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Supernatural - Deus Ibi Est
Video Title: Deus Ibi Est
Song Title/Artist: Deus Ibi Est by Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan
Show/Character: Supernatural - John Winchester
Length/Format: 2:51, (Xvid, Stream)
Summary: John Winchester single minded soldier.

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Thanks [livejournal.com profile] astartexx for the awesome essay. So, when you posting your vid then? ;)
This vid was made to premiere at [livejournal.com profile] winchestercon 07. The notes are quite lengthy so you may want to read them after you've watched the vid. I don't usually do notes and on the odd occasion when I have they certainly weren't this long but I thought, what the hell, go for it.



Credits/Titles/Effects
I’ve been leaning more towards simple ones lately and I really wanted to flex some of my muscles in After Effects. I did a lot of playing around with cameras in 3 dimensional space for this vid. Most of the ones in the body of the vid are meant to be invisible but the titles are supposed to be a nod to the fact that they are there.

Narrative
I felt it was important to get John’s back-story out of the way as soon as possible so that we know where he’s coming from without having to go over it all. So the intro is a montage of misery for poor old John, leading to him becoming a single minded man with a mission. Find gun! Get gun! Kill YED! If ever anyone were “Leaving Salvation” it’s John (the sign even has his initials) His sons are reminders of the past and also have become hunters in their own rights, something the sad man holding his kids close to him would not have wanted but he made them soldiers anyway. How can those not be sad shores?

There really isn’t “an unknown force” as such. He always knows what he’s doing and why even if it is against his will. The colt was made for demon hunting and over the years bullets have been used by John’s “ancestors”, his predecessors. The colt as the key to the Hell Gate is kind of a leap in logic that frankly, I still don’t really buy it but what the heck, it looks cool.

Even before he’s dead and in Hell, John is underground in the darkest, dankest places, trying to protect his sons from the worst that can happen whilst still being fully prepared to put them on the frontline.

The montage of mythology shots leads us to the colt as the solution. And here we have Dean looking at the gun with greedy eyes but its Daddy’s gun and he can’t have it, not yet. There are other hunters and they have families and they get killed and that’s really not John’s concern because there’s only one death that really mattered to him. Dean is surrounded by dead things and yet he’s still better off than his dad because yet again John is in the bowels of the earth trying to fix everything on his own.

It’s around the line “soldiers come and soldiers go” that John’s attitude to Dean changes he will sacrifice himself for his son so that he can complete the mission. So now Dean gets the colt. A gun and a mission isn’t much of an inheritance but it’s all the eldest Winchester son can expect. Sam is not necessarily to be trusted and certainly is not the right man for this job. John’s not there, in fact he’s never there he’s in a tatty old photo, a reminder of a life that got burned away.

The deal is struck, Dean is saved and John is damned and yet when you make a deal with the devil for the right reasons “God is present” or at least John thinks so. (I think Bobby would disagree.)

So it’s time for John to bow out and leave his eldest son to fight the battle. He leaves with a sense of calm, not so the YED who seems to wonder if he’s made a mistake. History repeats itself so Dean will sacrifice himself for Sam even though he knows what it is like to be on the receiving end of that particular chunk of guilt.

John breaks out of Hell and uses that one last chance to do just enough to give his son time to complete the mission. Dean learned love and sacrifice from his dad and now it’s payback time. The fact that the YED never saw it coming proves that John made the right decision that Dean was the man for the job. And we get the nearest thing to a happy ending that the tragic Winchesters are ever likely to have.

I think the decision to not show Mary but to choose clips that showed her absence was the right decision. She has left a void in their lives and so she is kind of the same in the vid, she’s a tombstone, a photograph, an empty space.

So this is a vid about John the soldier as much as it is John the father. The marching beat of the song emphasises this as does the matter of fact, determined delivery.


Deus Ibi Est by Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan

Against my will to these sad shores
An unknown force has drawn me
Bound unto a future shaped by ancestors before me
Day on day I march the beat to someone else's drum
I have searched far foreign lands there's nowhere left to run

Impending storm rise up rise up
Oh demons I shall shame you!
Look down the barrel of my gun and one by one I'll name you
Day on day my brothers leave go marching off to war
Yet we never understand for what we're fighting for

Ubi caritas et amor
Ubi caritas
Deus ibi est

Worldly desires and worldly gains
Designed for worldly men
I'm a master of the heart with ears and hands to lend
Soldiers come and soldiers go some changed by love for thee
A circle in the chain of life all fighting to be free

Ubi caritas et amor
Ubi caritas
Deus ibi est

So come my lord and we shall dance
To God's own private drum
Sweet Jesus and the holy vine
The afterlife to come
Day on day I march the the beat to someone else's drum
I have searched far foreign lands there's nowhere left to run

Ubi caritas et amor
Ubi caritas
Deus ibi est
Latin translation: Where there is tender care and love, God is present.

Feedback in all shapes and sizes is very much welcomed.
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Date: 2007-10-14 02:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jebbypal
Wow...that was pretty much perfection on just about every level.

Date: 2007-10-14 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
I just have to say WOW back at ya! Thank you so much. :D

Date: 2007-10-14 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barkley.livejournal.com
That was lovely. I love the song choice with the beats and the John Winchester sounding voice, but the ethereal female vocals to give it something more. And you got my heart too with John and his goals and his sons and how it all fits together.

Date: 2007-10-14 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks for commenting, barkley. The song is great isn't it? It spoke John the minute I heard it. If John Winchester could sing this is what he would sound like.

Date: 2007-10-14 03:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com
That song could have been made for John and you put it together so perfectly. You really captured his entire character.

Date: 2007-10-14 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks! I really couldn't have found a better song, I love it and it let me capture John the way I see him.

Date: 2007-10-14 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ejayye.livejournal.com
Oh, FUCK.

That was...man...*clings to vid*

Date: 2007-10-14 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
I take it that means it's good then. Thanks! *g*

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Date: 2007-10-14 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dana-duchovny.livejournal.com
Perfect song, great job with this vid.
Image

Date: 2007-10-14 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thank you very much. Love the flowers! :D

Date: 2007-10-14 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-muppet.livejournal.com
I know I've asked before if you want to be listed on The Imapala (http://the-impala.co.uk/) but I have a question mark next to your name so I can't remember if you said yes or no.

So...

Just wondering if you'd be interested in being listed as an editor on The Imapala (http://the-impala.co.uk/), a new Supernatural vidding archive which [livejournal.com profile] _gater_ and I have set up to run alongside our existing Stargate vidding archive Kawoosh! (http://www.kawoosh.co.uk/)?

If you would, you can submit your vid HERE (http://the-impala.co.uk/submit/).

We do have a hosting policy which you can read about HERE (http://community.livejournal.com/the_kawoosher/25189.html).

We also have an LJ comm running alongside the site if you're interested: [livejournal.com profile] impala_kaz2y5

Thanks, and apologies for the repetition.

Date: 2007-10-14 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks for asking again but I won't be posting there at the moment.

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Date: 2007-10-15 02:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Wow, this has such a great tone and such incredible pacing. Great view.

Date: 2007-10-15 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
I'm really pleased you liked it, yourlibrarian. Thank you so much.

Date: 2007-10-15 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destina.livejournal.com
This is such a fantastic vid - I saw it at Wincon and loved it beyond all words. OH JOHN. Just gorgeous.

Date: 2007-10-15 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thank you so much. It's good to hear from someone who was at Wincon. I hope you enjoyed the con and I'm delighted that you loved the vid.

Date: 2007-10-15 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessive24.livejournal.com
Oooooh. This is amazing. The song choice, the editing... it's just perfect. I loved the way you edited to the strumming, and the effects are just awesome.

It's a beautiful vid, simply told but with so much thought and complexity behind the (more or less) linear narrative. I think what I liked the most was that you didn't try to overtell canon narrative; you know your audience is likely to get what you're trying to say with just a few judiciously-placed clips. My favourite example of this is 2:20-2:23 - obviously a huge plot arc, but you hardly spent any time on it, knowing your audience will get it and feel it despite the short duration. That sort of knowledge, the trust in your viewer, has always been something that I've associated with great film directors, and it's no less valid here. You awe me with your constant progress and innovation.

Date: 2007-10-15 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Supernatural has some really great vids and is home to some of the best vidders so it's always a bit intimidating dipping my toe in those waters.

I'm so pleased you think the quick reference to Dean's deal to save Sam was well handled because it was one of the last sections to come together and I really wanted to make sure I didn't get sidetracked into following Dean's arc so I settled for a quick "like father like son" reference and hoped it would be enough, and apparently it was!

Cheers for the feedback which is, as always, much appreciated.

Date: 2007-10-15 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clex_monkie89.livejournal.com
Just saw this at the vid show at WinCon and thus I now need to download it badly. I really did love this so much.

Also, I may be a tad in love with this song now, would it be too much if I asked for an upload of the song alone, too?

Date: 2007-10-15 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
I'm glad it made an impression on you at Wincon. You never know how these things are going to be. :) Thank you for letting me know you enjoyed it.

As for the song, here you go. It's .mp3 so I hope that's ok?
http://bronze-ambition.net/Deus.zip

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Date: 2007-10-15 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com
LOL Not anytime soon... And I won't bore you again with my praise - Just repeating one phrase: This is for me the ultimate John Winchester vid - You captured him so fucking perfectly!

Date: 2007-10-15 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Ay! Another one swearing on my LJ but then I should've known ;) Your essay on my vid in email was enough to blow my mind there's no need to say any more than that. I wish I could repay the kindness but there's no chance of that especially when you're posting German fanfics and not your Dean vid. *sulks*

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Date: 2007-10-15 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marinarusalka.livejournal.com
I love this vid! Saw in at Winchestercon, and downloaded it as soon as I got home. The song is perfect for John, and I love how both the beat of the song and the pacing of the clips convey John's drive and the relentlessness of his (and then Dean's) mission.

Date: 2007-10-15 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thank you, Rusalka. I'm glad you loved it so much. It's brilliant that you got the sense of John's relentless drive from the vid because that was exactly what I was aiming for.

Date: 2007-10-15 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colour-me-sassy.livejournal.com
Wow hon, talk about impressive. Your editing/effects are so flawless and complex and pretty much beyond my understanding, that I'm sure if I didn't watch the show I would think that is all done by the pro's. I really enjoyed this. I love the song, it went so perfectly for John. This one is my new favourite of yours :) I'm really really really impressed :D

Date: 2007-10-16 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
It's your new favourite? Awesome! I wouldn't have thought this was your sort of thing so it's doubly awesome. :D It really proved a much more arduous editing job than I was expecting so at least I know it was worth it. Thanks Hun!

Date: 2007-10-16 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millylicious.livejournal.com
You just knocked me flat on my ass, that's what you did. Wow...This is, in my opinion, your best work so far.

The titles are gorgeous, I dream of the day I can do anything even ressembling that. And then when the singing picks up, it gave me chills, because that voice sounds just like John, it's insane.

0:16 'my ancestors before me' with the colt is brilliant
0:20 The combination of the gun pulling back, the repercussion and the railroad tracks glowing is so visually striking I had to pause and go back on the first watch, which I really very rarely do.
0:36 Was that the other 3D work you mentionned? I noticed it on the first watch more in a 'I don't remember that footage at all', then I read your notes. If it is...whoa. And if it's actual footage, then you used some kind of Charmax magic trick on it cause, again, whoa O_O
0:53 ending with dead and the beautiful voice, constrating what we should saw both in sound and lyrics, picking up on flowers, but especially, love. I don't know if it was your intention, but that first chorus felt a bit like a doubtful read on the lyrics, that 'Where there is tender care and love, God is present', with Dean's pain while looking at his mother's grave. And before even reading your notes, I felt it was Mary's absence that had more space than who she was in the vid, which in truth, is also the same as in the show. John's quest was not because of who she was, but how she went.
1:15 The rosary on John's shoulder is just *gorgeous*, then picking up the motion of the bullet by completing the rotation to the other side...
1:26 I love love love how the position of the shadow through the window is the same as the following shot, and then he turns and the door opens
1:33-1:37 I really like that sequence, and the lamp flashes on the beat!
2:05 Listening to a man narrate his own death (and I like to think, challenging God to take him on, in a way) is out of this world, but this is really the impression you left me with. Especially with the woman vocals over the man's words.
2:19 'There's nowhere else to run', with the grave overlayed with the fire is so gorgeous beyond words, in such a sad way.
2:30 That 'Deus Ibi Est' sounds like such a cartharsis, with Dean shooting the bullet that finally kills the YED. Then followed by the various shots of Dean and John through time, Dean becoming his father in a way and completing he's father's quest.

I can only imagine how batshit insane the people at WC became after watching this, because it must look so effing incredible on a big screen.






Date: 2007-10-16 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Wow, Milly I'm bowled over by your high praise and you really got the vid which is great news for me.

The song really does sound like John doesn't it? When I first heard it I was struck by that and then there's the line about naming demons down the barrel of a gun and that's when I was convinced that it was perfect.

0:36 yep that's me messing with 3D to make the demonic symbolism a bit more unified. It is footage from the source though, I'm far too lazy to track down external source.

0:53 In a lot of ways the whole vid is about Mary's absence and in this chorus that's particularly apparent almost as if Mary is the angelic voice from beyond the grave.

1:26 It makes me so happy that you picked up on that. It's probably my favourite little moment in the vid and I kind of thought I'd put it there just for me. I wasn't particularly expecting it to get noticed.

2:05 "Listening to a man narrate his own death" God, I wish I'd thought of that phrase to describe this section. This was the point at which I thought I might confuse people so it's reassuring to know it didn't seem weird.

2:30 The final "Deus Ibi Est" is my own favourite part in terms of emotional impact and Dean firing the gun on that line was one of the first clips I laid down and I never fell out of love with it, no matter how much I tinkered with the rest of the vid.

Thank you so much for your insightful feedback. It's always so exciting when someone really gets a vid. That's particularly true in this case because I think "invisible hands" is the most moving John vid I've ever seen.

Date: 2007-10-16 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stabbim.livejournal.com
Beautiful work! It's a vid that I can watch over and over again. It's pretty and emotional and captures John's journey perfectly. Love it! I'll definitely rec your vid to my friends.

Date: 2007-10-16 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Hiya, stabbim. Yes! Rec away, tell everyone. :D I'm so pleased you feel it's worthy of repeat viewings.

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Date: 2007-10-16 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phantomas.livejournal.com
Happily downloading (only it takes ages *kicks connection*)

Will it be okay to post a link to this in the papawinchester comms on LJ and JF?

Date: 2007-10-17 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Hey, I hope you like it. Sorry there's not a smaller option. :(

Please do post in those comms, it's a rec for me which I'll never turn down, so thanks!

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Date: 2007-10-17 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whereistheluv.livejournal.com
I really loved this! That song was so perfect and I really was moved by the whole thing. I must go back now and inspect your AE work with the cameras. I've never really done much of that and your end title totally blew me away. I just got AE CS3 so I'm going to study this! As always, great vid!

Date: 2007-10-17 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks! The song really is awesome in its John-ness, so it was impossible to resist vidding it. I'm pleased you enjoyed it.

Have fun playing with AE. I still can't manage to remember how to do even quite simple things and I'm constantly having to go back to the manual to figure out where I'm going wrong. I find it all a bit of a slog but when you manage to pull off something cool it's definitely worth it.

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Date: 2007-10-17 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disanddat.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] phantomas told me to come see this. I'm ever so glad she did.

Wow.

The quality here is amazing. It whisks through the story so smooth and completely. This is a great vid. Thanks for posting it.

Date: 2007-10-18 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks so much for commenting. I'm really pleased that you enjoyed the vid.

Date: 2007-10-17 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruafair.livejournal.com
Ok it's John Winchester AND Mark Lanegan together... and my God what an amazingly perfect video.... The editing and timing are just incredible...

Brilliant.

Fiona

Date: 2007-10-18 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
John Winchester and Mark Lanegan are quite clearly made for each other. Which is good news for this vid. Thanks for the feedback.

Date: 2007-10-17 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angharadd.livejournal.com
I loved this vid. The song does seem so fitting!
Thank you!

Date: 2007-10-18 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
The song choice does seem to have gone over well. Thanks for dropping by to leave feedback.

Date: 2007-10-17 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alias_chick.livejournal.com
That was absolutely AMAZING!! I loved your song choice and the timings were perfect!! I'd never heard it, but I quite like it!!

AND I totally watched your Nikki one.. lol I saw "Wreckoning" and I had to watch! One of my fav songs, but just curious who did that remix that you used??

Date: 2007-10-18 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Hi there and thanks for letting me know you enjoyed the vid. Although this song is the stand-out track for me, the whole of the "Ballad of the Broken Seas" is worth a listen.

As for "The Wreckoning" I'm afraid I can't be much help. I was given the song by a friend and then edited it for length to make the vid. Although I'd heard the song before I wasn't very familiar with it and so have no idea about remixes or other details.

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From: [identity profile] kiki-miserychic.livejournal.com
The odd song choice is so perfect, it's distrubing. Very cool titles too. The layering and movement is beautiful. Your use of stillness, like in the hospital basement and the use of objects, is wonderful. It's great to see still objects used to come together to paint a picture of John. The transition over to Sam from John with the parallels is skillful and so is the way you brought in Dean.
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Hiya and thanks. I'm so pleased you left me your thoughts on the vid. The titles were fun to do in a fiddly sort of way. It is a very still vid and it took me a little while to embrace that and run with it. It's about absence and loss as much as anything and so the still objects and empty spaces seemed particularly appropriate. As things evolved Sam kept getting squeezed out so that he only really has the limelight for about 10secs in the middle, during which time I hope it shows what connects John and Sam as well as why their relationship is particularly troubled.

Date: 2007-10-18 04:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tsuki-no-bara.livejournal.com
i saw this at wincon and it's fabulous. i love that it's a john vid, and the music and clips and overall tone and everything go together beautifully.

Date: 2007-10-18 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
I hope you had fun at Wincon and thanks for taking the time to let me know you enjoyed the vid.

Date: 2007-10-20 05:24 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com
Hey there. Just commenting to let you know that your vid was rec'd on [livejournal.com profile] crack_impala. Thanks again for such a great vid!

Date: 2007-10-20 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks for letting me know.

Date: 2007-10-20 08:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seraphina_snape
Brilliant vid! Everything fit together perfectly.

~ sera

Date: 2007-10-20 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charmax.livejournal.com
Thanks, sera. Glad you enjoyed it.
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