In memory

[charmax]

RIP Luciano Pavarotti.

1. Skunk Anansie, Luciano Pavarotti, Orchestra Sinfonica Italiana - You'll follow me down

2. Eurythmics, Luciano Pavarotti, Alberto Borsari, Orchestra Sinfonica Italiana, José Molina - There must be an angel playing with my heart

3. Tracy Chapman, Luciano Pavarotti, Orchestra Sinfonica Italiana, José Molina - Baby, can I hold you tonight

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[messyjessie58.livejournal.com]

oh no! :(

[stabbim.livejournal.com]

It's sad, isn't it? Amazingly talented, and he didn't even get singing lessons till he was 21, I think. Those are wonderful songs to remember him by.

By the way, I've finally gotten into SPN, and I just wanted to tell you that I really loved your vid "Protège Moi". Awesome work, it looks fantastic and it works so well with the song, it's really stuck in my head.

"The Way We Get By" was fun, which reminds me that I haven't found many uplifting SPN vids yet. I love the angst, but it was nice to see someone focus on the light side for a change. :D

[charmax.livejournal.com]

It is very sad, he had such a talent and he brought opera to the masses like no other. He is a loss to many.

I'm pleased you've been enjoying SPN and that "Protège Moi" made such an impression. There will be a John Winchester vid coming soon, hopefully. Then I'm going to be remastering "The Way We Get By" to use the DVD source and you are absolutely right there should be more fun in the SPN fandom.

[stabbim.livejournal.com]

My friend Doro tried to get me to watch the show for years, but being still disappointed that The X-Files ended up a shadow of its former self, I never thought I'd enjoy a dark, supernatural show again. I fell in love with SPN quickly. It hit all the right buttons.

I guess it helped that I expected the show to be a standalone monster of the week show. I didn't expect the beautiful character and story arc developments. Also, I'm glad that the show isn't so full of itself. It doesn't claim "I'm the best show ever!", which The X-Files did, even when its glory days were long gone.

Have you seen Sisabet and Luminosity's vid Woman's Work? It's really well done, but it didn't affect me much. While watching the show, I noticed that I tend to identify with male characters, I rarely identify with the damsel in distress because that's not who am I. I'm not easily scared, but you should see my husband when we watch SPN. Hehe. Anyway, I had a much stronger reaction to male characters in distress, and not just the main characters. I've probably been conditioned that way ever since I laid my eyes on "Scraecrow and Mrs King" or "MacGyver". :D

"Protège Moi" was really cool. Dark and haunting, that how I'd describe it.

[charmax.livejournal.com]

It does have some "X-files" elements and I definitely enjoy the fact that it can laugh at itself. I never watched "X-files" when it aired, I'm only now working my way through the DVDs. For this reason I have been noticing a lot of similar storylines. the thing I've noticed about "X-files" where I differ from most fans of the show is that I prefer the standalone eps to the big arc ones. That is the opposite of every other show I've ever enjoyed. I think like you say it may be that in the arc eps there is a certain amount of pomposity that turns me off.

As for "Woman's Work". I have seen it. I think they make a valid point but, truthfully, it will never be my favourite Supernatural vid because I always feel bludgeoned whenever I watch it. I am hopeful that SPN will find a way next season to find stronger roles for its female characters. I don't see me in any of the damsels either.

If you like the darkness of "Protège Moi" I hope you'll enjoy the Papa Winchester vid because it is full of teh angst but in a controlled calm way.

[stabbim.livejournal.com]

It does have some "X-files" elements and I definitely enjoy the fact that it can laugh at itself.

That's what I love so much about the show. It doesn't take itself too seriously. The "Tall Tales" episode was a rip off of TXF' "Bad Blood" and there are so many storylines and (un?)intentional injokes ("There's a Chupacabra a couple of states down.") that just add to the show because those stories are made in a less pompous way.

I was a fan of the mythology in TXF's early years when it still made sense. I know Chris Carter did the best he could, but unfortunately, he made it up as he went along, and I guess it sort of still makes sense in the end if you really suspend your disbelief, but it's frustrating that Carter didn't plan those arcs as well as SPN or "Babylon 5" did, for example.

The stand alone episodes were my favorite ones as well. I hated that Chris Carter was so full of himself whenever he talked about his show. It's okay to be proud of one's work, but especially in later years when the show wasn't as good as it had been any more, it annoyed me big time. I guess it's smarter to offer resolutions along the way instead of building towards a big finish. It's less frustrating for the audience.

I've gotta admit that I'm a bit biassed and bitter when it comes to TXF. It was the first show I was really fannish about, and like a couple of my friends, we were very disappointed when the show deteriorated and stopped making sense to us. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it was a very painful experience for us. frogspace and I still can't re-watch our DVDs because we're still so disappointed in the show. Even if Kripke doesn't admit that TXF was a huge influence, too, I know that he's got half of TXF former staff on his payroll, and that's why I was so cautious about getting into SPN. I didn't want another XF experience. If that makes any sense.

I am hopeful that SPN will find a way next season to find stronger roles for its female characters. I don't see me in any of the damsels either.

Me, too. They need to create female characters who are equal to Sam & Dean. Ellen was a start in the right direction, I guess, but it wasn't enough. I realize that not every show can have their Susan Ivanova ("Babylon 5") or Aeryn Sun ("Farscape"); heck even Brenda Johnson ("The Closer"), who would lose every chick fight on the planet, would be a more impressive "strong" female character than any of the damsels they wrote. Jo could have been interesting, but they shouldn't have played the "little sister" card the way they did.

If you like the darkness of "Protège Moi" I hope you'll enjoy the Papa Winchester vid because it is full of teh angst but in a controlled calm way.

Angst! Yay! I'm one of those strange people who want to fully experience a show, identify with its characters and feel their joy and pain. So yeah, I'm sure I'll love it. I'll let you know, of course. :D

[charmax.livejournal.com]

"Bad Blood" is one of my favourite episodes so I was rather sceptical when my flist exploded with squee for "Tall Tales" but when I watched it I absolutely loved it. I guess you've just explained my problem with the myth arc eps on TXF, I just never trusted that the writers knew where it was heading. I know so many people who ended up resenting the show, actually I don't know any fan with good things to say about the last two seasons. I've noticed that it is taking me longer to watch season 6 than it did the first five put together I guess that should tell me something.

Someone else told me recently that there were a bunch of ex x-files staff working on SPN I'm choosing to see this as a good thing.

I enjoyed both Ellen and Jo as characters but was a bit disappointed that with Jo in particular they ran out of things to do with her and she was just abandoned. I suppose new women characters will mess with the dynamic between the brothers which worries me a bit. I do have plenty of other shows with strong female leads so I can probably afford to enjoy one that's all about the boys.

[stabbim.livejournal.com]

I guess you've just explained my problem with the myth arc eps on TXF, I just never trusted that the writers knew where it was heading. I know so many people who ended up resenting the show, actually I don't know any fan with good things to say about the last two seasons. I've noticed that it is taking me longer to watch season 6 than it did the first five put together I guess that should tell me something.

My thoughts exactly. The first three, maybe even four and five seasons were fantastic, but afterwards, it slowly got worse.

Someone else told me recently that there were a bunch of ex x-files staff working on SPN I'm choosing to see this as a good thing.

Kripke isn't Carter, and the SPN's creepy look and feel is due to some ex X-Files writers and directors' involvement. It's kinda strange to trust Kripke, but I really think he knows where he's heading for season 3. Maybe not season 4, but if he delivers a great season 3, he can always see where he wants to go next.

I enjoyed both Ellen and Jo as characters but was a bit disappointed that with Jo in particular they ran out of things to do with her and she was just abandoned.

I agree.

I suppose new women characters will mess with the dynamic between the brothers which worries me a bit. I do have plenty of other shows with strong female leads so I can probably afford to enjoy one that's all about the boys.

Since the new female characters are supposed to be antagonists of the boys instead of allies like Ellen or Jo, I think it'll work. We'll have to wait and see, I guess... which won't take long. October will be here soon. :)